Episode 7: Traditional, Indie & Hybrid Publishing, Promotional Scams, The Magic Computer

/Episode 7: Traditional, Indie & Hybrid Publishing, Promotional Scams, The Magic Computer

Episode 7: Traditional, Indie & Hybrid Publishing, Promotional Scams, The Magic Computer

In this month’s episode we talk about traditional, indie, and hybrid publishing, and which one we’re doing. Plus, Cheyanne rants about book promotional scams. We also discuss how we’ve seen computers used and overused in stories.

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By | 2015-12-20T15:50:44+00:00 December 20th, 2015|3 Comments

About the Author:

Jim Zoetewey writes The Legion of Nothing. Jim grew up in Holland, Michigan, near where L Frank Baum wrote The Wizard of Oz. Admittedly, Baum moved away more than sixty years before Jim was even born, but it’s still kind of cool. He majored in religion and sociology at Hope College, eventually getting a masters in sociology and all but three credits of a masters in Information Systems. He also enjoys running, training in the martial arts, playing bass guitar, and walking his dog. Oh... And for readers who might be his wife, he feels that he should mention that he's fond of her too.


  1. Billy Higgins Peery December 24, 2015 at 3:21 pm - Reply

    I’ve actually seen a bunch of people say that they wouldn’t read indie books, because of the gatekeeper thing. Tbh that’s probably because I’m like Chris, in that I read way too many author blogs. Like you guys have said, though, most people don’t care enough to pay attention.

    At this point I feel like I can distinguish between most indie and traditional books even without looking to see who the publisher is, but that’s not necessarily a knock against indies. While traditional books do tend to be a bit more polished (and I include my own web serials in the “unpolished indie” category, even if web serials don’t count as true indie publishing; you guys probably mentioned in the web serial ep but that was months ago don’t act like I’m supposed to remember) indie books can just be so much more gonzo.

    Like, I was reading Chris Strange’s “Mayday” (yes that should be italicized but I don’t know how to do that in a comment don’t judge me), which was a noir/kaiju mashup. And that’s just something I wouldn’t expect from a traditional publisher? It’s too damn weird.

    I feel the same way about web serials (sorry Cheyanne, I’m one of the Web Fiction Guide guys). Superheroes in general were considered too risky for most publishers. With the exception of “Wild Cards,” “Soon I Will Be Invincible,” and tie-in novels, superheroes just weren’t done in the trad pub world. That explains the lack of trad pub superheroes that Cheyanne was referring to, I think.

    You see something completely different in the web serial world. I mean, “Legion of Nothing” feels downright mainstream compared to stuff like Syphax’s “Stone Burners” or even George Frost’s “Zombie Knight.”

    You want me to wrap this all up in a nice concluding paragraph? Whoops.

    • Christopher Wright December 25, 2015 at 12:13 am - Reply

      Maybe we should start a writers blogs support group…

      • Jim Zoetewey December 28, 2015 at 1:00 pm - Reply

        I rarely read writers’ blogs. There’s too much of a “blind leading the blind” feel to it to me. I remember one time I read a writer’s blog shortly after starting my own serial. It was an article about how to write a serial. It occurred to me later that I’d never seen a serial by the guy. So far as I know, he’s never written one.

        I’ve never knowingly used anything from the article.

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