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Throwing the Gun: Ask Us Things
August 18, 2015
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If you have been listening to the Throwing the Gun Podcast and you have questions, ask them here! We'll be happy to answer them, as long as the statute of limitations has expired.

If you HAVEN'T been listening to the Throwing the Gun Podcast, you can still ask questions, and we may even answer them, but you'll never know, because you haven't been listening to the Throwing the Gun Podcast. Still, feel free to ask them here. Same statute of limitations thing applies.

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August 18, 2015
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Not a question really, but a couple tropes that bug the hell out of me that I think would be fun to hear in either the Fridge or Nerd Fight segments. I did some browsing on tvtropes to see if I could get exact names for these, but couldn't find a perfect match for the second one.

The first trope I really hate: The "Invincible Villain" that results in "Only the Author Can Save Them Now!" You know the one, where the bad guy has demonstrated that his abilities/scheming/resources are so much greater than the good guys can handle, and then he's suddenly defeated (usually by something that shouldn't have worked, Deus Ex Machina appears, or he's the mastermind that suddenly comes down with a terminal case of stupid)

The second trope I hate is close enough to the Red Shirt Army that we can just go with that. Basically any scenario where the highly trained and fully equipped guys get massacred in seconds by the same guys that our hero then gets to rip through by the dozen. Even when done comically, this has to be REALLY well done to not make me angry at the writer.

*an edit for clarity*
I don't necessarily mind the seemingly invincible villain if it sparks some sort of need for the protagonists to set off on an extended arc to get the macguffin of power or recruit THAT GUY or whatever (the fact that this will sometimes result in a stagnated story and become boring as hell is an entirely separate issue from the trope itself ^_^), it's when no weaknesses or flaws have been exposed, and then the villain is suddenly defeated anyways.

August 18, 2015
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OOOOH! Those are both great tropes. I'd especially be up for discussing the Red Shirt Army one.

August 19, 2015
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Something that would be interesting to hear discussed by PCS writers would be the fundamentals of writing, and how different PCS writers figured them out.

For instance, I wrote 800k+ words before I ever picked up a book about how to write story structures. Amazingly, the first original story I ever wrote actually has a very solid structure in it's first book. I quickly went all sorts of wrong directions from there. I got a lot better at scene writing, world building, grammar, and dialog while I butchered story structure. I experimented with Genre-hopping, flowery world-building, excessive personal lives, unrewarding conflict resolution, you name it, I did it wrong.

And then I sent a short story off for publication, a story I was very proud of. A story I 'knew' was a powerful story. It was rejected with no explanation, so I went to Baen's Bar with it and dropped it in their slush pile for comments. I had it explained to me that even though the story was good in a lot of ways, I was clearly clueless about fundamentals of story structure. (Spoiler: The story has been rewritten, and I will be publishing it myself at some point.)

So I bought a few books on how to write books. Not how to write action. Not how to do world building. Those things I was very good at. I needed to learn how to write a solid STORY. What is Act I, Act III, Act III? What are the fundamental requirements of a story? What keeps the reader reading? I needed to learn and understand Lead, Objective, Conflict, and Knockout. Don't forget the trinity of Mirror Moment, Doorway #1, and Doorway #2. And it's critical to know about scenes and beats: Intensity, Action, Reaction, Setup, and Deepening. I was lucky enough to buy books by an author who explained story writing without any flowery English-grad bullpuckery. I tend to be allergic to ivory towers. I won't mention the author's name here so nobody thinks I'm trying to advertise for them.

So how did the PCS folks learn the basics of writing?

August 26, 2015
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I'd like to hear some discussion on how you each have the world react to the existence of supers.

May 28, 2016
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Having heard your podcast talking to the creators of Villains & Vigilantes, I would like to hear a discussion about what role playing games work best for super hero gaming.

My good lady has talked me into running a setting that I had been working on as a side project, and the only super hero RPG that I have ever run or played was Chaosium's old SuperWorld. (My character picked up the nickname Captain Corporation after he hunted down the armored villain... and bought him out.)

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June 13, 2016
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In regards to hyper-intelligent gorillas - there is also Monkeyman and O'Brien - he's a ten foot tall gorilla with hyper-intelligence and a bookish nature, she's a seven foot tall scientist with a missing father and super dense muscles. They fight crime!

It also crossed over with a bunch of things in the nineties - from Gen13 to Spiderman.

June 18, 2016
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I remember Monkeyman and O'Brien. I haven't seen that series since the 1990s. I remember it starting though. I may even have read a few issues.

The Legion of Nothing: Web serial and ebook series

July 27, 2016
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Hmmm, how about a trope for Stuffed in the Fridge - a double header:
Heel Face Turn
Face Heel Turn

In the Teen Titans, it sometimes feels like Raven is doing both often enough to look like she is spinning like a ballerina....

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July 30, 2016
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Oooh, I like that one. Heel Face Turn and Face Heel Turn are classics.

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July 30, 2016
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I'm back and I'm free to record. I'd prefer not on Mondays, but any day is fine with me.

July 30, 2016
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Cheyanne said
I'm back and I'm free to record. I'd prefer not on Mondays, but any day is fine with me.  

I think you may have put this in the wrong topic...

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October 21, 2016
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Christopher Wright said
Oooh, I like that one. Heel Face Turn and Face Heel Turn are classics.  

The podcast went great, up until the computer took a Face Heel Turn. 😛

The Auld Grump - took two tries to log in this time....

October 24, 2016
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In regards to Face Heel Turns in books - there is rather a good one in Broken Homes - the third book of the Rivers of London urban fantasy series. Part of what makes it work is that it actually happened in the second book, but came to the surface in the third.

And, of course, Boromir in Fellowship of the Ring.

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December 13, 2016
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Ah, yes... time for more Tropes....

How about The Evil Twin?

Or, perhaps, the joys of 'The Dream Sequence' vs. 'And It Was All A Dream'?

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March 1, 2017
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I see that Ian Healy has umped on the Evil Hyper-intelligent Gorilla trope with both feet!

Also, I am switching to using my Facebook account, in the hopes that it works better than the old log in was doing....

The Auld Grump - same name, same handle, but on Facebook....

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